Can You Store Co2 Airsoft in a Closet

Can You Store Co2 Airsoft in a Closet





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Topic: Affects of temp on CO2  (Read 20689 times))

dpricenator

I accept several times about CO2 and the affects common cold temps haves on it.  I sympathize, common cold air, is more dense than warm air and then you lot have less presur ein dside the container or cartridge.

Simply

How large is the bear upon?  I live in SoCal so I am not worried about freezing temps very often.  And as a Cali guy, if it is freezing outside, I am inside or skiing.  However it got downwardly to a frigid xl* last night and was cool all day.

Also Could the affects be mitigated by keeping all the CO2 cartridges ina warm business firm, or even in the furnace closet (non hot but xc* in there).  In my instance having a warm gun and cartridge, Would I be able to use my 2240 in the winter around here?


co2 volition see changes with temperature.  from 40degree in morning to warmer fifty/lx solar day or even more so. co2 starts equally a liquid.equally it warms it is the gas off of the liquid that y'all desire to shoot. information technology would definitely help to outset with a warmer tank but dont over do it. on a warm/hot day information technology tin can even cause the bursts disk to permit go if left in the sun etc.   co2 volition cool down with multiple rapid shots too.

if you start out with a 90deg gun inside and become out to 40deg  outside it will cool downwardly somewhen and may cause enough pressure loss to see a change in velocity. ;D

"come over to the darkside you knob"


dpricenator

right on, With the new Dominate Valve, i'k told I volition only get 17 or then total ability shots from a 12 thousand cartridge.  I figure I can run through 17 shots on a target fast plenty to not see much affect.  Then we go dorsum inside and take hold of some other warm one.


take to try and encounter. i guess every gun is a little unlike. my co2 feel coming from a multifariousness of different paintball guns. some would definitely freeze worse than others. a lot of which depended on the volume after the tank. at to the lowest degree from my experiences. i think at 17 shots you lot'll exist ok. ;D final couple of useable shots volition likely dull down a lilliputian. only you get the aforementioned affair from hpa. last of shots volition come from less pressure. but time it became an issue to us was when it was cold and rapid firing would cause the gun to "freeze up" and almost cease shooting. you could see a drastic change in velocity. this coming from a gun shooting 280/330 fps. ;D

"come over to the darkside you knob"


Well now I know why my soft air cat chaser did not work well last winter. (no cats were harmed just butt shots and so dogs would not injure them). Frigid forty deg come on over to chicago ;D

  • Franklin Park IL.

Disco 22, P-Rod, Crosman 2250b, RWS 850, Crosman 1377(Lent out MIA)


They absurd off pretty apace in rapid fire, esp. without a warm solar day to help stabilize them.  Got the double cooling of the gas that expands to drive the pellet (and it cools from expansion) and the cooling when liquid co2 in the cartridge converted to gas to replace whats been shot.  Shoot fast, and the gun cools downwards enough to see vel. driblet, even on a hot mean solar day.

Can certainly shoot co2 downwards at 45-50F.  Will use a good bit more gas per shot and will shoot slower than information technology would on a warm solar day, simply information technology will still shoot.

  • Louisiana

Hither is the force per unit area nautical chart....

You are interested in the horizontal directly lines in the bottom department of the graph.... repeated in the white table, upper left.... Unfortunately, different guns react differently to the modify in pressure, then it'due south difficult to predict how much velocity y'all will lose at lower temperature.... simply you will lose....

Bob

  • Coalmont, BC, Canada

🇺🇦 Dominion Marksman Argent Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! 🇺🇦

Airsenal:

1750 CO2 Carbine, .177 Uber-Pumper, .22 Uber-Carbine, .25 Discovery, 2260 PCP 8-shot Carbine, 2260 HPA (37 FPE), 2560 HPA (52 FPE), XS-60c HPA in .30 cal (90 FPE), .22 cal QB79 HPA, Disco Doubles in .22, .25 & .thirty cal, "Hayabusa" Custom PCP Project (Mk.I is .22 & .25 cal regulated; Mk.II is .224, .257, 7mm, .308 & .357; Mk.III is .410 shotgun and .458 cal), .257 "Monocoque" Benchrest PCP, .172/6mm Regulated PCP and .224/.257 Unregulated, 3 regulated BRods in .25 cal (seventy FPE), .30 cal (100 FPE) & .35 cal (145 FPE), .257 Condor (180 FPE).


   I have shot my Crosman 2260 numerous times in the common cold and information technology does shoot slower and produce a shorter shot count. I find that it every bit long as you lot do not shoot apace, is even so has enough of power for plinking. I have never actually measured the velocity drop on a cold day, and at long range at that place may be a more dramatic POI alter downrange.

Andrew

  • Montrose, CA

FX T12 Whisper .22
Crosman 2260 .22 (custom)
Crosman 1322 .22 (project gun)
Crosman Mark 1 .22
Stoeger X5 .177
'66 Sheridan Silver Streak .twenty


.....I discover that it as long as you do not shoot apace, is nevertheless has plenty of power for plinking. ...Andrew

The pressure doubles from 40 F to 90F
Guns that tin tolerate that range and still exist relatively consistent are out there merely they are not numerous. Information technology involves balancing pressure with Valve elapsing. Lower pressure level creating longer elapsing.

CO2 guns will exist more consistent the more CO2 you take on board. The chill that is developed by a shot tin be thermally managed if the Volume of CO2 is adequate.

As long as the temperature doesn't driblet as well much you can get skilful accuracy albiet slower velocity/lower ability.

Some guns fall on their face up when it is cold. Guns that feed just Vapor to the valve like the Tau7 LD Drulov, Aeron, Brno CO2 guns apply this layout where the CO2 comes in the botom from the grip.

LD's lose ~ten% velocity from 85F to 45F going from 560 to 505 FPS
That is near 20% loss of energy from 10 to 8 FPE.

You tin still hunt with it in the winter on CO2 simply a lot of guys like to use the HPA regulated AIR tanks @ 800 psi and the gun gets the 560 no affair how cold information technology gets. Information technology is nice to make guns that are dual fuel. The reward to using the best seals is you lot can go either way. The HPA tanks screw into the aforementioned adapter the CO2 tanks screw into so they are a straight switch. You can take any of the Chek CO2 guns set-upward for 800 psi HPA air once you get the hangy tank adapter made up on your extra cap. I give you an oring for the factory cap that won't keen and the spare cap we make into a Hangy Tank adapter for $45. It has a congenital in check valve then the gun stays charged when the tank is removed. xiii CI 800 PSI HPA American fabricated tanks are $75 with the thread protector and $80 with the Fill nipple (shroom) embrace on a leash.

When you desire to become the most power and shots from a 12 gram CO2 organization it is impotant to pierce the cartirdge and then let the organisation warm up so it is at room temperature B4 you lot commencement your shooting session. The difference in force per unit area is astonishing and the results will be far greater power and shot count both, if you wait till it is warm and and then await betwixt shots long enuf for the temperature to recover.
Information technology takes near 45 seconds for a gun to regain the pressure it had the previous shot. If it is stood on it takes longer cause you accept released more refrigerant. If you shoot fast the pressure will driblet every shot. 12 grams practice non have acceptable CO2 volume to thermally recover rapidly like bulk system can.
On the 22XX serial of guns equally well as the EB series the near important thing to call back is yous are not piercing cartirdge when you lot are tightening the cap. The showtime shot pierces the CO2. It is really important to non over torque the cap or yous Volition LOSE POWER! A half-dozen yr quondam can tighten the cap enuf. A man can get it 5 times tighter than he should. Seal life and power will suffer for this indescretion.
Do not leave empty CO2's in the gun equally they volition tend to get stuck to the seal and depict it out when yous remove the CO2.
A dap of divers grease or a drop of surreptitious sauce is more than adequate to extend the face seals life as long equally it isn'tr mashed via overtightening.

« Last Edit: Nov 08, 2011, xi:forty:05 AM by TimmyMac1 »

"No Guns Would be a Riot"


dpricenator

WOW, guys more than info than I expected.  THANKS


randomgunner

Kinda OT
Will a qb 79 nonetheless work in colder weather condition?


QB's were engineered past me so yes they are moderate CO2 users in stock fashion and work pretty well in common cold. Not as dramatic as an LD only nonetheless pretty good considering the force per unit area is halved on a real chilly day.
With CO2 hapiness is a warm gun as heat is energy and CO2 at higher temps is far more energy.

« Concluding Edit: November 08, 2011, 03:44:48 PM by TimmyMac1 »

"No Guns Would be a Riot"


dpricenator

And then I messed arounf with my trigger bound terminal night and left the gun on my TV, where the heater vent was bravado right on it all night.  This AM I went out to examination the trigger, and BLAM.  the difference in a warm gun, and a cool gun is pretty big.


You know the song " Happiness is a warm gun";)  I keep the 850 nigh the rut in he cold weather condition

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